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Orc Wallpaper by mindflenzing Orc Wallpaper by mindflenzing
Just for fun I decided to do a baddie also. I was looking at orcs by a number of my DA buddies and decided to try my hand at orcs. I like the pig-orc design and I decided to mix it with a bit of bat and monkey.

While Orcs are everybody's favorite monster to bash in D&D, but my home campaigns featured Goblins instead because I could get more of them cheaper than Orcs buying D&D minis.
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2011
I like the classic greenskin design, albeit I use it both with also the greyskin inspired by LOTR design too.
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mindflenzing Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It can be fun when you have a distinctive look for a species (like all adult male gnomes having chin curtain beards with no mustaches or all trolls having handle bar mustaches).
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2011
Yeah, albeit I like to allow a certain levy for changes, variations, unless the specie is very rare and in small numbers, curses, etc...

My orcs in my world separated long ago in a Star Trek way between 'Greenies' and 'Greys', one being not unlike Eberron's orcs, the others the classic D&D orcs in outlook and current look. The gods help a greeny or grey who enters the WRONG territory....
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mindflenzing Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Subspecies are fun. It is easy to substitute an existing racial ability for another or add a new one to a subspecies (as a racial feat power if player's want it too).
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2011
Not suspecies, I like Keith Baker's ideas for Eberron - instead of Subraces for X and Y, cultural differences, or 'bloodlines' by example. Subraces only for really divergent stuff, like Drow and Duergar.
So, in this case, its... more like what we call incorectly 'races' here, to touch a dangerous subject; 'phenotypes' as the more correct word I think. Cultural differences and the effects of geographic isolation and genes taking distances some.
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mindflenzing Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah but the fantasy genre is pretty much based on rejecting things like science or political correctness. You go commit genocide on the local goblin population, treat the halflings like thieving magpies, mock the folically challenged dwarf, then go back to having monsters that only eat magic items and sentient stalactites attack you.
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theubbergeek2 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2011
*Shrugs* I know, just saying. I do have dark things as racism indeed (and the more correct grammaticaly relative in this case perhaps, specieism), but things can be done differently - like China Mieville do.
While I am not a 'bleedin' lib' or such per se, I like to turn things around a bit...

The 'Greenies'? Like Eberron, much are Neutral/Unaligned. Or Good, even. Sadly indeed, not every foreigner know the differences there.. :/
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mindflenzing Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In a fantasy world different races are written to only encompass one or two broad stereotypes of humans because it is easier to reduce human traits than to expand on ones alien to humanity. One can still play against type but that is a stereotype too. Getting caught up in trying to be fair and open minded in that kind of setting is kind of a waste of time. Not flipping thing on players can be fun.

In my home campaign kobolds are not monsters to fight. In one region, where the ruling class are human descendants of the dragon queen, kobolds are considered public servants and religious zealots. They maintain the shrines and temples of the dragon queen and killing one is a capitol offense for the lower class. But it still plays off of the (now) draconic kobolds having a fanatical religious fervor for dragons who they claim to descend from.

Just don't Drizt it. Now everybody assumes that Drow are good because of Drizt. I don't care for it. There is a good reason why most people should fear Drow, Gnolls, Orcs, Goblins, Giants, Dragons, etc. Evil or not if most people encounter them somebody is going to die. These are races that do not establish trade or co-mingle with humans so they will never be accepted like elves and dwarves are. Those things are how human communities grow to accept one another. Gypsies would not live among or intermarry with communities in Europe and they became widely hated for that. Mixing royal bloodlines was the first step in establishing the collective mindset that made the European Union possible. De facto racial segregation to this day leads to racial tension, because it is human nature. We don't trust those whom we don't know and don't break bread with or share family with. In a fantasy world people are concerned primarily with survival not with egalitarianism. Egalitarianism is a rich man's game and even today only wealthy countries really make a go of it.
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AngelicAdonis Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
lol. Great job! Very nice monster you have made here! Oh the Ork, such a classic! :D
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mindflenzing Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks. I think Orcs are if not THE iconic fantasy monster, they are certainly in the top 3.
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